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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by FoolishOwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>FoolishOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going through the installation guide the other day, and I noticed that it explicitly argues in favor of in-place upgrades.

The sorts of troubles I&#039;ve had with Ubuntu upgrades in the past would not have been revealed by testing with the LiveCD, as most of the difficulties have been subtle problems with particular applications. For all but the most zealous, booting from the LiveCD will demonstrate whether your machine can boot up and launch the GUI.

I&#039;m often bemused by the advice, &quot;back up your data first,&quot; because properly backing up data is NOT simple, few individuals or even institutions have effective backup methodologies, and the advice appears so often that it becomes background noise.

All in all, it&#039;s not at all crazy that people did in-place upgrades, and most people who did so did without much difficulty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going through the installation guide the other day, and I noticed that it explicitly argues in favor of in-place upgrades.</p>
<p>The sorts of troubles I&#8217;ve had with Ubuntu upgrades in the past would not have been revealed by testing with the LiveCD, as most of the difficulties have been subtle problems with particular applications. For all but the most zealous, booting from the LiveCD will demonstrate whether your machine can boot up and launch the GUI.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m often bemused by the advice, &#8220;back up your data first,&#8221; because properly backing up data is NOT simple, few individuals or even institutions have effective backup methodologies, and the advice appears so often that it becomes background noise.</p>
<p>All in all, it&#8217;s not at all crazy that people did in-place upgrades, and most people who did so did without much difficulty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on git/bzr historical performance comparison by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Making money with FLOSS, really? by Zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think its difficult to profit from FOSS. Maybe the services that is needed with it can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think its difficult to profit from FOSS. Maybe the services that is needed with it can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by ljenux</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljenux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ubuntu epic fails are not myths but proven truth.

usually, their releases are unworkable for 3 months, until they make necessary bug fixing.

i would say that people realize the uglyness of ubuntu with every new release, but fail to move to something else because of lazyness and habit.

having rolling release like pclinuxos is much better solution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ubuntu epic fails are not myths but proven truth.</p>
<p>usually, their releases are unworkable for 3 months, until they make necessary bug fixing.</p>
<p>i would say that people realize the uglyness of ubuntu with every new release, but fail to move to something else because of lazyness and habit.</p>
<p>having rolling release like pclinuxos is much better solution</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me preface this by saying that I am not exactly a fan of Ubuntu.  I tend to go more for the likes of Fedora, Gentoo, and Arch, or even vanilla Debian Testing over Ubuntu.  I only installed it at all as I like to try out all the mainstream distros as a hobby.

Given that, I am finding Kubuntu 9.10 very nice.  Everything &quot;just worked&quot; since I installed it in early beta, and I have kept it upgraded ever since with nary a problem.  Not even audio or GRUB 2 (two common complaints).  Not my kind of disto overall, but very stable and one I&#039;d recommend to non-technical friends without hesitation (though I&#039;d certainly recommend trying the live CD first to make sure it worked with all their hardware!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me preface this by saying that I am not exactly a fan of Ubuntu.  I tend to go more for the likes of Fedora, Gentoo, and Arch, or even vanilla Debian Testing over Ubuntu.  I only installed it at all as I like to try out all the mainstream distros as a hobby.</p>
<p>Given that, I am finding Kubuntu 9.10 very nice.  Everything &#8220;just worked&#8221; since I installed it in early beta, and I have kept it upgraded ever since with nary a problem.  Not even audio or GRUB 2 (two common complaints).  Not my kind of disto overall, but very stable and one I&#8217;d recommend to non-technical friends without hesitation (though I&#8217;d certainly recommend trying the live CD first to make sure it worked with all their hardware!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit of an &quot;odd man out&quot; here I guess.  I installed Karmic on three laptops, one of which was an upgrade, and two virtualbox virtual machines.

The upgraded version limped for a few boots, then stopped functioning completely and needed a clean install.  All three clean installs have various problems: suspend and hibernate don&#039;t work, boot up is flaky, X does weird things on no particular schedule.  Generally, a hard reset is the only way to get the system back.  This is not good.  And no, they weren&#039;t all installed from the same CD.

One of the vm&#039;s I&#039;d been running since early alphas, and it had the problems you&#039;d expect, but updates worked and things progressed.  Then the update to RC just totally and completely trashed that install in a way I&#039;d never seen before.  After a clean install, it&#039;s running beautifully, but I never use suspend on the vm.

Yesterday I downloaded and installed a 64-bit version.  Still no suspend that works on that machine, and sometimes booting is fine and sometimes it gives me a flashing command line login that&#039;s nonfunctional.  Hard reset required to regain control.  All very bizarre.

I&#039;ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper and wouldn&#039;t consider anything else.  But I have really never had this number of problems with a new version.  Really.  It&#039;s not all in my head.  

Maybe upstart was let off the reservation before it was ready.  Maybe something else is the problem. Either way, though, it makes it hard to tell people to get with the (good) program and ditch Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit of an &#8220;odd man out&#8221; here I guess.  I installed Karmic on three laptops, one of which was an upgrade, and two virtualbox virtual machines.</p>
<p>The upgraded version limped for a few boots, then stopped functioning completely and needed a clean install.  All three clean installs have various problems: suspend and hibernate don&#8217;t work, boot up is flaky, X does weird things on no particular schedule.  Generally, a hard reset is the only way to get the system back.  This is not good.  And no, they weren&#8217;t all installed from the same CD.</p>
<p>One of the vm&#8217;s I&#8217;d been running since early alphas, and it had the problems you&#8217;d expect, but updates worked and things progressed.  Then the update to RC just totally and completely trashed that install in a way I&#8217;d never seen before.  After a clean install, it&#8217;s running beautifully, but I never use suspend on the vm.</p>
<p>Yesterday I downloaded and installed a 64-bit version.  Still no suspend that works on that machine, and sometimes booting is fine and sometimes it gives me a flashing command line login that&#8217;s nonfunctional.  Hard reset required to regain control.  All very bizarre.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper and wouldn&#8217;t consider anything else.  But I have really never had this number of problems with a new version.  Really.  It&#8217;s not all in my head.  </p>
<p>Maybe upstart was let off the reservation before it was ready.  Maybe something else is the problem. Either way, though, it makes it hard to tell people to get with the (good) program and ditch Windows.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by shinkanzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>shinkanzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crunchbanglinux.org based upon ubuntu, breathes new life into old hardware which would be unusable with a gnome/kde-desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crunchbanglinux.org based upon ubuntu, breathes new life into old hardware which would be unusable with a gnome/kde-desktop.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by Roy (linuxcanuck) 's status on Monday, 09-Nov-09 13:04:29 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy (linuxcanuck) 's status on Monday, 09-Nov-09 13:04:29 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by مدونة</title>
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		<dc:creator>مدونة</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx alot for this post

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anas-b.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;مدونة&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx alot for this post</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anas-b.com" rel="nofollow">مدونة</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the Bad Ubuntu Release by Ronard Escleto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronard Escleto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, that will be great info^_^... i learned something new though reading up in here about ubunto ... ehehe thanks anyway for the information.. keep up!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, that will be great info^_^&#8230; i learned something new though reading up in here about ubunto &#8230; ehehe thanks anyway for the information.. keep up!!</p>
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